Ultimate Axiom

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  'Experiences(tm)'! Made up or totally true??

  by punkofnice in

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  at one assembly(tm), i was asked to relate an 'experience(tm)' which i did.

  however, during rehearsals, the geezer in charge elder or co or some such title, told me that i shouldn't tell it the way it was.

  i did a 're-enactment(tm)' with another 'brother(tm)'.

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  I was asked to give several experiences back in the day, but I was never asked to change or embellish any of them – looks like I was in a minority. But I was aware of many who would exaggerate almost everything. On one occasion a brother approached me and said, “so I hear you were chased down the road by a vicar the other day”. At first I had no idea what he was talking about. Here's what actually happened. A young brother and I had called on a house where a vicar lived, and after a fairly lively ten minutes we left and went to the next house. Within minutes the vicar had come out, and from the street called out to this householder not to listen to us because we were bonkers. He then went back inside and I thought no more of it.
  

  Some people are renowned for exaggerating and they obviously know who they are. On one occasion in general conversation with a small group I made the observation that as exaggerating is designed to give a false impression, I considered it to be the same a lying. I wasn’t directing that remark to anyone in particular, but one of the sisters in this group immediately said, “are you saying I’m a liar?” I laughed inside, and thought, well if the caps fits.
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  Greta Thunberg...what’s your view of her?

  by minimus in

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  she certainly is passionate about climate change.

  🤔.

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  I think that she, like all of the “loony left” are looking at this climate change issue the wrong way. Instead of trying to prevent global warming, we should be welcoming it. The planet doesn’t need extinction rebellion, it needs extinction acceleration. We need to get to as many tipping points as we can, and as soon as possible. Once the human race is extinct, Planet Earth will be so much better off, and who knows, in a couple of million years, maybe a truly intelligent species will evolve. One that doesn’t adhere to primitive and barbaric religions. One that doesn’t kill other animals for fun. One that isn’t driven by insatiable greed, where even billionaires are not satisfied. One that doesn’t allow 90% of the wealth to be accumulated in the hands of 1% of the population. One that doesn’t allow millions to starve while throwing away half the food it produces. One that doesn’t think it’s OK to pay a footballer more in a month than a nurse or a teacher in their entire lifetime. One that doesn’t just destroy its own habitat, but those of countless other species without a second thought. Yes, Planet Earth would be so much better off without the human parasite, so if you really care about our planet, buy bigger cars and make more and more unnecessary journeys in them, leave the engine running whenever you can, take more of those cheap flights for unnecessary weekend breaks, protest against every wind and solar farm in the pipeline, campaign for more coal-fired power stations, and above all, continue to elect morons and buffoons as heads of government.
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  Did You Think Jehovah’s Witnesses Were Typically “Racists”?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  i was a jw from infancy.

  we had a melting pot type of congregation.

  i grew up with all types of witnesses , all with different backgrounds.

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  Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean she isn't correct.

  I don't disagree, and I think she was correct. But at the time (when I imagine the divorce rate among mixed race couples was even higher than today) I thought it was odd coming from a JW. Incidentally, my first marriage was mixed race - it lasted 14 years - but race was never an issue..
  
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  Did you EVER falsify your report card ?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  every single watchtower soldier lied to god out of fear of the brooklyn popes..

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  I started out a very conscientious pioneer, but when I approached the end of the month and was ten or twenty hours short, I ‘borrowed’ from the next month. It wasn’t long before the time spent in the first week or two of any given month was included in the previous month’s report. I didn’t see it as falsifying, so my conscience remained clear. A couple of times I managed to get the deficit down to single figures, but when I started to wake up the whole thing became a fallacy – hours, placements, studies, the lot. I spent many hours standing on doors knowing that no one was home, towards the end I didn’t even bother knocking on the door. My last year of service probably amounted to 120 hours, of which I reckon I spent less than 120 minutes actually talking to people. The weird thing is, even now after nearly 40 years, I still have the occasional dream about being on field service.
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  Did You Think Jehovah’s Witnesses Were Typically “Racists”?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  i was a jw from infancy.

  we had a melting pot type of congregation.

  i grew up with all types of witnesses , all with different backgrounds.

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  I can honestly say (and it’s about the only thing I am grateful to JWs for) that becoming a JW completely cured me of racism. Before that I was a typical young white, London born, English Nationalist who hated all black people and wanted them all repatriated.

  However, years later I did find it a bit odd that the black presiding overseer of a neighbouring congregation that was predominantly black, was reportedly having issues of racism from white servants in that congregation. I heard that from the presiding overseer of my congregation, and a few years after that, the black presiding overseer stepped down, declining to become an elder when that system was introduced in the early 70s.

  I also found it odd when the engagement of a white brother to a black sister was announced, an older black sister commented that they shouldn’t be marrying each other because mixed marriages invite difficulties, and they were just bringing unnecessary troubles down on their own heads. I didn’t take that as racism, but I did think she should keep those sort of thoughts to herself.
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  Good memories of full-time service?

  by fulano in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  perhaps not a topic for everybody... mine.. in both sp service in a foreign field in europe , the freedom and helping people to read and write in spanish .

  doing a lot of work in the congregations.. in missionary-service.. helping congregations in a third-world country and see good results in family relations.

  and the siestas from 13:00 to 15:00..... who has good memories of bethel?

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  My most enduring memory of five years of pioneering is of being constantly hungry. I was stupid enough to actually believe that if you put the kingdom first etc etc.
  
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  Boys pre-teen sexuality / erections.? Why ? If only for procreation ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. social
  2. family

  this has been a bug bear my whole life i think and not really sure how to address it as nobody else ever seems to do so.. and it relates to the question if god really created humans .

  he did a shithouse job in this regard.. i can`t speak for females this is entirely a male thing.

  from my perspective.. male adolescents at a very ,very young age , babies , get erections periodically and it has nothing to do with sexual fantasies ,because they don`t even have an awareness of sex between a male and a female at this time.. and it is second inbuilt nature to masturbate to relieve, get rid of the erection .

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  Ultimate Axiom

  he made human reproduction to be automated
  

  But you wouldn't automate harvest to happen in the spring, before anything is ripe, so why automate reproduction in a child? That's not intelligent design, that's plain stupid design.
  

  I wouldn't say that God did a sloppy job with the design
  

  It's not so much the design itself, but the timing of it, although I can think of plenty of other design flaws in the human condition. Yes, "orgasms for all" is brilliant - such a pity is has to be tied up with reproduction, then kids could enjoy it to their hearts delight without any unwanted pregnancies.
  
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  latest WT, advice for Bible Studies

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
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  our goal is to help our bible student to grow spiritually.. .

  as his love for jehovah grows, however, he will likely begin to think about how he can help others, including those who are already part of the congregation.

  (matt.

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  JWs used to take great pride over never doing things like that, and it certainly never happened in my day. Now they have no shame. None at all.
  
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  Boys pre-teen sexuality / erections.? Why ? If only for procreation ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. social
  2. family

  this has been a bug bear my whole life i think and not really sure how to address it as nobody else ever seems to do so.. and it relates to the question if god really created humans .

  he did a shithouse job in this regard.. i can`t speak for females this is entirely a male thing.

  from my perspective.. male adolescents at a very ,very young age , babies , get erections periodically and it has nothing to do with sexual fantasies ,because they don`t even have an awareness of sex between a male and a female at this time.. and it is second inbuilt nature to masturbate to relieve, get rid of the erection .

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  Yes indeed, god did a very poor job in the design of the human race. Either that, or he's a very perverse individual. As you say, what’s the point of baby boys getting erections, and I might add, what’s the point of twelve year old girls menstruating? Why design boys and girls to become sexually mature over a decade before they are emotionally mature? And as if that’s not bad enough, he then makes it a sin for them to relieve the powerful urges involved.
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  Murmurs from the locals

  by Moster in

  1. jw
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  i was ministered to by several different people at a jw funeral i attended today.

  one older lady said to me, "you know the end is right around the corner, just look at the state of the world today".

  i said, "well yes but that has been the mantra for decades, remember 'stay alive till '75'".

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  "you know the end is right around the corner, just look at the state of the world today"

  Yep, that's more or less what they said in 1912.